Comments on: 17 RULES FOR CHURCHES http://treymorgan.net/17-rules-for-churches/ Sat, 19 May 2012 16:54:05 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: e3 http://treymorgan.net/17-rules-for-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-10509 e3 Mon, 26 Jan 2009 22:37:01 +0000 http://day3hosts.com/treymorgan/2009/01/17-rules-for-churches/#comment-10509 As one who works in an architecture office, it is hard for me to remember it's not about the building. VERY hard. I even had to write myself a note. "Make the building go away so the spirit and people shine. The building is not the church, the people are." As one who works in an architecture office, it is hard for me to remember it’s not about the building. VERY hard. I even had to write myself a note. “Make the building go away so the spirit and people shine. The building is not the church, the people are.”

]]> By: Jenn http://treymorgan.net/17-rules-for-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-10503 Jenn Sun, 25 Jan 2009 04:10:15 +0000 http://day3hosts.com/treymorgan/2009/01/17-rules-for-churches/#comment-10503 I am the secretary at my church. Your lists like this are one of the things I really like about reading your blog. Sometimes I am tempted to print them out, frame them, and hang them up in my office...lol I am the secretary at my church. Your lists like this are one of the things I really like about reading your blog. Sometimes I am tempted to print them out, frame them, and hang them up in my office…lol

]]> By: Sherri Watt http://treymorgan.net/17-rules-for-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-10495 Sherri Watt Sat, 24 Jan 2009 05:05:12 +0000 http://day3hosts.com/treymorgan/2009/01/17-rules-for-churches/#comment-10495 Great list! <br/><br/>Raise up world changers not tour guides.... I love that!<br/><br/>My heart is with Jerriann- the comment of the day. I deal with hurting women all the time. They feel like they don't belong there. We are getting better at transparency at our church but we still have a long way to go.<br/><br/>God Bless! Great list!

Raise up world changers not tour guides…. I love that!

My heart is with Jerriann- the comment of the day. I deal with hurting women all the time. They feel like they don’t belong there. We are getting better at transparency at our church but we still have a long way to go.

God Bless!

]]> By: Brother Mark http://treymorgan.net/17-rules-for-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-10486 Brother Mark Fri, 23 Jan 2009 02:31:48 +0000 http://day3hosts.com/treymorgan/2009/01/17-rules-for-churches/#comment-10486 Remember you are<br/>the Church and in Jesus.<br/><br/>Where ever you go or what <br/>ever you do....He is there too.<br/><br/>He sees what you see.<br/><br/>He will tell you about at<br/>the Bema Judgement.<br/>Don't let anyone steal your Crown.<br/><br/>God Bless,<br/>Your Brother Mark Remember you are
the Church and in Jesus.

Where ever you go or what
ever you do….He is there too.

He sees what you see.

He will tell you about at
the Bema Judgement.
Don’t let anyone steal your Crown.

God Bless,
Your Brother Mark

]]> By: TREY MORGAN http://treymorgan.net/17-rules-for-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-10483 TREY MORGAN Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:07:50 +0000 http://day3hosts.com/treymorgan/2009/01/17-rules-for-churches/#comment-10483 Jerrian ... so well said. Thanks for your comment. I hope both the "church people" and "non-church" people were listening to your comment. :)<br/><br/>Wiseman ... I like the "Bucket List" idea! Jerrian … so well said. Thanks for your comment. I hope both the “church people” and “non-church” people were listening to your comment. :)

Wiseman … I like the “Bucket List” idea!

]]> By: WisemanB http://treymorgan.net/17-rules-for-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-10480 WisemanB Thu, 22 Jan 2009 17:22:17 +0000 http://day3hosts.com/treymorgan/2009/01/17-rules-for-churches/#comment-10480 My favorite soap box right now is that we've given up on "restoration" as if it's like we've restored a '65 Mustang and now we just keep it polished and waxed.<br/><br/>As the church, we're far from being restored to the New Testament model (and some say that's going to be impossible to do now). But we still need to push on. I see that as a grand adventure; to keep growing and maturing, and applying what we see in Scripture to our lives.<br/><br/>Great list. What about presenting it as a "Bucket List" series? My favorite soap box right now is that we’ve given up on “restoration” as if it’s like we’ve restored a ’65 Mustang and now we just keep it polished and waxed.

As the church, we’re far from being restored to the New Testament model (and some say that’s going to be impossible to do now). But we still need to push on. I see that as a grand adventure; to keep growing and maturing, and applying what we see in Scripture to our lives.

Great list. What about presenting it as a “Bucket List” series?

]]> By: jerriann http://treymorgan.net/17-rules-for-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-10478 jerriann Thu, 22 Jan 2009 16:59:41 +0000 http://day3hosts.com/treymorgan/2009/01/17-rules-for-churches/#comment-10478 My favorite comment is train commandos, not committees. <br/><br/>When I gave my life to Christ, at age 28, I was afraid to go back into the church buildings because I knew people would see how broken I was. Hungry, hurting, seeking people should not be afraid of the judgement of people in church buildings. But they are. I don't think it was as much the church's fault as my own damaged perception. <br/><br/>I just want so badly for hurting people to know the life that Jesus has for them. Here, on this earth, right now. My favorite comment is train commandos, not committees.

When I gave my life to Christ, at age 28, I was afraid to go back into the church buildings because I knew people would see how broken I was. Hungry, hurting, seeking people should not be afraid of the judgement of people in church buildings. But they are. I don’t think it was as much the church’s fault as my own damaged perception.

I just want so badly for hurting people to know the life that Jesus has for them. Here, on this earth, right now.

]]> By: Stoogelover http://treymorgan.net/17-rules-for-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-10474 Stoogelover Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:10:22 +0000 http://day3hosts.com/treymorgan/2009/01/17-rules-for-churches/#comment-10474 If only, huh? Too early in the morning for me to come up with any additions to an excellent list that pretty much sums up the basis of frustration for many who serve on staff of churches. I could take every one of those and give you a story from my life in the pulpit. If only, huh? Too early in the morning for me to come up with any additions to an excellent list that pretty much sums up the basis of frustration for many who serve on staff of churches. I could take every one of those and give you a story from my life in the pulpit.

]]> By: Chris Johnson http://treymorgan.net/17-rules-for-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-10473 Chris Johnson Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:08:45 +0000 http://day3hosts.com/treymorgan/2009/01/17-rules-for-churches/#comment-10473 Great list man. Thanks Great list man. Thanks

]]> By: Fillmycup http://treymorgan.net/17-rules-for-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-10472 Fillmycup Wed, 21 Jan 2009 23:00:28 +0000 http://day3hosts.com/treymorgan/2009/01/17-rules-for-churches/#comment-10472 Like the list ... I might add: <br/><br/>Look at yourself through the eye of the non-believer, the one searching, the one tormented, the person seeking spiritual growth.... what do they see? Jesus? Peace? A reason to believe? <br/><br/>As much as I hate to say it, a book is often judged by a cover. I would hope that in a church's case that cover reflects Jesus and draws others too him. Like the list … I might add:

Look at yourself through the eye of the non-believer, the one searching, the one tormented, the person seeking spiritual growth…. what do they see? Jesus? Peace? A reason to believe?

As much as I hate to say it, a book is often judged by a cover. I would hope that in a church’s case that cover reflects Jesus and draws others too him.

]]> By: karin http://treymorgan.net/17-rules-for-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-10471 karin Wed, 21 Jan 2009 22:23:31 +0000 http://day3hosts.com/treymorgan/2009/01/17-rules-for-churches/#comment-10471 Excellent list!!! Excellent list!!!

]]> By: Joshua Tucker http://treymorgan.net/17-rules-for-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-10470 Joshua Tucker Wed, 21 Jan 2009 22:10:40 +0000 http://day3hosts.com/treymorgan/2009/01/17-rules-for-churches/#comment-10470 Great list, Trey. Here's a few I thought of:<br/><br/>Connect to the world around you, but always keep God's holiness. Never compromise God's standard.<br/><br/>Every member is a minister, paid or not. You do not need permission to minister to those around you.<br/><br/>Don't base church practice on what all the other churches do, but instead on Scripture and God's leading.<br/><br/>Shout this message loud and clear: World, we are not better than you! The only difference between us and you is that we have accepted God's love, but there's plenty of room.<br/><br/>We all have a responsibility to help parent new Christians in the faith.<br/><br/>When a church grows so big in numbers that it becomes impersonal and official, multiply.<br/><br/>Be people-focused, not program-focused. Great list, Trey. Here’s a few I thought of:

Connect to the world around you, but always keep God’s holiness. Never compromise God’s standard.

Every member is a minister, paid or not. You do not need permission to minister to those around you.

Don’t base church practice on what all the other churches do, but instead on Scripture and God’s leading.

Shout this message loud and clear: World, we are not better than you! The only difference between us and you is that we have accepted God’s love, but there’s plenty of room.

We all have a responsibility to help parent new Christians in the faith.

When a church grows so big in numbers that it becomes impersonal and official, multiply.

Be people-focused, not program-focused.

]]> By: cwinwc http://treymorgan.net/17-rules-for-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-10469 cwinwc Wed, 21 Jan 2009 20:20:34 +0000 http://day3hosts.com/treymorgan/2009/01/17-rules-for-churches/#comment-10469 You kind of said this one already but I'll throw it in - <br/><br/>Make sure that you grow in both knowledge and GRACE.<br/><br/>Don't take yourself too seriously because the fact is, you're wrong before you get started, God is God, and its by His Grace and not our "rightness" that we are His Children. You kind of said this one already but I’ll throw it in –

Make sure that you grow in both knowledge and GRACE.

Don’t take yourself too seriously because the fact is, you’re wrong before you get started, God is God, and its by His Grace and not our “rightness” that we are His Children.

]]> By: Peter P http://treymorgan.net/17-rules-for-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-10468 Peter P Wed, 21 Jan 2009 19:47:05 +0000 http://day3hosts.com/treymorgan/2009/01/17-rules-for-churches/#comment-10468 There should be no difference between our individual lives and 'the church'.<br/><br/>We are the Church. The two are synonymous (sp?)<br/><br/>Tell me how that 17 point sermon goes! There should be no difference between our individual lives and ‘the church’.

We are the Church. The two are synonymous (sp?)

Tell me how that 17 point sermon goes!

]]> By: TREY MORGAN http://treymorgan.net/17-rules-for-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-10467 TREY MORGAN Wed, 21 Jan 2009 19:04:50 +0000 http://day3hosts.com/treymorgan/2009/01/17-rules-for-churches/#comment-10467 Jared ... I thought the exact same thing. They could be applied to our individual lives. :) Jared … I thought the exact same thing. They could be applied to our individual lives. :)

]]> By: Jared http://treymorgan.net/17-rules-for-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-10466 Jared Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:46:40 +0000 http://day3hosts.com/treymorgan/2009/01/17-rules-for-churches/#comment-10466 Forgive me if I state the cheesy, yet obvious...<br/><br/>But most, or all, of these could be rules to live by as well, not just the Church. But then again, if you think about it, we are the Church, so maybe I'm just being redundant.<br/><br/>Word verification: dinaling.<br/><br/>What is it? Any offspring of the late Dinah Shore. Forgive me if I state the cheesy, yet obvious…

But most, or all, of these could be rules to live by as well, not just the Church. But then again, if you think about it, we are the Church, so maybe I’m just being redundant.

Word verification: dinaling.

What is it? Any offspring of the late Dinah Shore.

]]> By: Anonymous http://treymorgan.net/17-rules-for-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-10465 Anonymous Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:45:47 +0000 http://day3hosts.com/treymorgan/2009/01/17-rules-for-churches/#comment-10465 Make sure the elders and the pastoral staff do not all think the same way -- though the basic values and beliefs in Christ must be shared. <br/><br/>The best ideas and plans are not confirmed right away as briliant. They need a little debate from different perspectives before they can be brought to their full potential and effectiveness. Make sure the elders and the pastoral staff do not all think the same way — though the basic values and beliefs in Christ must be shared.

The best ideas and plans are not confirmed right away as briliant. They need a little debate from different perspectives before they can be brought to their full potential and effectiveness.

]]> By: TREY MORGAN http://treymorgan.net/17-rules-for-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-10464 TREY MORGAN Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:23:24 +0000 http://day3hosts.com/treymorgan/2009/01/17-rules-for-churches/#comment-10464 But a 17 point sermons would be amazing ... :) But a 17 point sermons would be amazing … :)

]]> By: Peter P http://treymorgan.net/17-rules-for-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-10463 Peter P Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:19:18 +0000 http://day3hosts.com/treymorgan/2009/01/17-rules-for-churches/#comment-10463 Trey, you ROCK!<br/><br/>Those rules are awesome.<br/><br/>17's not a very godly number though now is it. It's not divisible by 3, 7 or 12.<br/><br/>How can I use it in a sermon series if I can't divide it into 3's?<br/><br/>:-) Trey, you ROCK!

Those rules are awesome.

17′s not a very godly number though now is it. It’s not divisible by 3, 7 or 12.

How can I use it in a sermon series if I can’t divide it into 3′s?

:-)

]]> By: Donna G http://treymorgan.net/17-rules-for-churches/comment-page-1/#comment-10462 Donna G Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:07:04 +0000 http://day3hosts.com/treymorgan/2009/01/17-rules-for-churches/#comment-10462 Spend less time enhancing "services" and more time planning Service! Spend less time enhancing “services” and more time planning Service!

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